On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:28:41AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 03:33:28PM -0400, Solomon Peachy via devel wrote: > > Honestly, if a "how to configure discourse to mimic the MUA-managed > > mailing list experience (ie not having to log into a web site after the > > initial configuration)" document is produced, that's probaby sufficient > > to overcome most of these objections, because then the setup cost is > > one-off, and the ongoing "interact with Fedora-devel" cost won't be any > > greater than it already is. (It's not the setup cost that's a problem, > > it's the per-transaction/interaction cost, which is currently _higher_) > > I've written this: > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/guide-to-interacting-with-this-site-by-email/25960 > > and I'd love feedback on it. I turned on the full email notications for "Project discussion" to get a representative sample. After two days, I would say that those notifications are not perfect, e.g. the quoting is off for no good reason [1], but in general OK. The text is readable and would work okayish to just follow the discussions. In particular, replies to replies seems to be threaded correctly, so I see a little tree in mutt. (In some previous comments on this thread, people who passively follow fedora-devel were mentioned. I think this answers this particular concern.) Personally, I expect this would be similar to how I interact with github: I get notifications by email for various activities, and either delete them or do short replies using email, but for "bigger" interactions I click on one of the links to go the web forum. The email workflow could be made better, github suffers from the same gratuitous bad plain text formatting, but practically there are limits: a multi-page diff cannot be displayed in the plain-text email anyway, so some interaction through the browser would be needed anyway. Actually, I think the metadata that discourse sends is already better than what github does. And the formatting is also better. If [1] is fixed, I think it would rate as "good". The threading is definitely better in discourse than in github, because the latter always does a flat list of replies. [1] https://meta.discourse.org/t/format-quotes-in-plain-text-e-mail-correctly/262814 Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue