On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > Ah. May or may not. That gives me hope at least. > > Well, considering that we have hundreds of existing contributors, who all > may or may not be willing to adapt to a platform that is clearly not > designed for them (Discourse is very strongly newbie-centric, see the > "achievements" and all the other hand-holding), I think it is safe to assume > that several important contributors WILL leave, tone down their > participation, and/or miss some important communication (leading to breakage > in the distribution, e.g., broken dependencies making it into Rawhide) if > Fedora makes the switch. > > > I don't think it's a double standard. I think people that already > > know how Fedora development and contribution works are inherently in a > > better position to adapt to something new, whereas net-new > > contributors are unlikely to even start based on an email driven > > practice. > > And as I already answered, I think this is completely backwards. If you want > to newly join a project, you learn their way to do things and adapt to it. > If, on the other hand, you are already involved in a project and have > workflows that work for you, any forced change to something perceived as a > regression will annoy you and make you want to leave. I think you and I fundamentally disagree on this and that's OK. I'm not trying to convince you. I was trying to understand your stance on why you'd potentially leave and express the reasons why I think it's worth it. We'll have to end our conversation here, because we've both stated clearly where we stand and I respect that you and I are simply not aligned. Thank you for your thoughts. josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue