Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

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On 4/21/23 20:52, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 08:24:14AM +0300, Benson Muite wrote:
>> However, it doesn't seem like we can hack on it to better suite
>> community needs, for example to have the same functionality as mailing
>> lists[2].  It is not standards driven and is primarily developed by one
>> company - something that follows Apache way[3] or has a community
>> governance process would be better in the long term for a large project
>> with many contributors who have technical expertise.
> 
> We definitely _can_ hack on it to better fit community needs. Changes might
> not automatically get accepted, but we've got a good relationship and I
> don't expect any kind of antagonism if we have something important.
> 
Good working relationship is ok for small projects.  Discourse has grown
and adapted because of this.  Discourse is fantastic as a forum which is
not read on a daily basis but periodically as the need arises. Need
stability and a governance model for critical infrastructure. Web first
philosophy kills productivity that a primarily text driven workflow has
for many people.
> On 2) https://discourse.cmake.org/t/cmake-discourse-mailing-list-mode-incorrectly-personally-addresses-all-email/738
> in particular... that's just the Cmake forum admin saying that the
> particular thing doesn't exist, not a Discourse dev saying they won't take a
> change. 
> 
> Although on that specific change.... Discourse attaches List-Id and other
> standard email headers (as well as some specific X-Discourse headers) to
> each message. Changing the To: line to be some list address could be done
> with a plugin, but might actually have negative consequences for reliable
> delivery.
> 
> 
>> Email clients offer significant customizability that a one size fits all
>> web interface cannot provide.  Mailing list mode for Discourse is
>> helpful, but not at the same level as email lists, where once one has
> 
> "Mailing list mode" was a specific thing in earlier versions of Discourse —
> it sent a notification for every message posted. This is kind of like going
> to Hyperkitty and saying "subscribe me to all 600 lists". I don't recommend
> that. Instead, choose specific tags that you want to subscribe to, just as
> you would subscribe to individual mailing lists.
> 
> I have a post about this and Fedora Discussion specifically:
> 
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/navigating-fedora-discussion-tags-categories-and-concepts/35555
> 
This is helpful.  Wish it were a magazine article. Those get read.

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