On 4/21/23 04:24, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: >> I am proposing that over the course of 2023, starting with the Changes >> process, we move Fedora development conversations from this mailing list to >> the Discourse-based Fedora Discussion. > > I feel this is a case of trading one group of people (email list users) > for a different group of people (web forum users). I have seen this > done multiple times over the years, tried to follow a few times, and > always dropped off fairly rapidly. I'm solidly in the "email list > users" group. Discourse is very nice. It is open source, uses a reasonable license [0] (though [1] would be better), and is great for casual interactions that maybe spread out over time. Would highly recommend it for moderate size community discussion. However, it doesn't seem like we can hack on it to better suite community needs, for example to have the same functionality as mailing lists[2]. It is not standards driven and is primarily developed by one company - something that follows Apache way[3] or has a community governance process would be better in the long term for a large project with many contributors who have technical expertise. Email clients offer significant customizability that a one size fits all web interface cannot provide. Mailing list mode for Discourse is helpful, but not at the same level as email lists, where once one has gained sufficient knowledge, interaction can be done from the comfort of the client of your choice. As such, simply adopting it because it can be deployed may leave out many contributors, in particular those who drive development forward. Mailing lists are not perfect, but it is not clear Discourse is a good replacement for the devel list. 0) https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/LICENSE.txt 1) https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html 2) https://discourse.cmake.org/t/cmake-discourse-mailing-list-mode-incorrectly-personally-addresses-all-email/738 3) https://apache.org/theapacheway/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
