Once upon a time, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:24:48PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > I have seen this > > done multiple times over the years, tried to follow a few times, and > > always dropped off fairly rapidly. I'm solidly in the "email list > > users" group. > > Is there anything which could be different this time which would make it > better for you? I really can't imagine a change for me (and I apologize if that sounds really "grumpy old man"... which I guess it starting to apply to me, since I was in college when a friend told me about some guy in Finland saying "hey Minix people..."). It really comes down to how I use a computer I guess; I am highly keyboard-focused, and I haven't seen a web forum yet that can handle that. Some have a few keyboard shortcuts, but they rarely fill the whole use and often are not well-maintained. Email lets me have full control of how I consume it. I can sort it my way, save what I want and delete the rest, flag things for more review, etc. Web forums force me to consume their content their way, and then when I maybe have a way to deal with it, they change things. Also, I can easily edit email posts in vi until I get my message the way I want (for example, this paragraph started out as a sentence further down the message :) ). So for web-based forums and such, they are very casual use for me, where I might drop in occasionally, but mostly just when searching for info. When I've tried web forums before (like when Red Hat killed off their mailing lists), I tend to lose interest and stop going pretty quickly (maybe it's an ADHD thing there, I don't know). I have a bookmark folder of a handful of web forums, and when I look at it, I mostly see sites I haven't visited in months or years. The only GUI-based communication tools I have stuck with are Slack and Discord, which I can run largely with a keyboard. Even there, I'm only in a small number of servers (Slack is mostly just for work at this point). I tried loading https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ in Lynx, but it's way too "busy" to be able to visually browse it, and of course it has the "best viewed with JavaScript enabled" tag, which is usually kiss-of-death for Lynx users (in fact, I couldn't see a way to log in or post/comment). I'm a small-time packager in Fedora, just a few leaf packages, but I do try to contribute to development discussions based on my experience and use cases. I don't like dropping out of it, but that just feels like the likely outcome. -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
