On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 05:57:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I also stand by what I wrote above. Kevin's words that "there is still > > nothing preventing an already rejected feature from being surprisingly > > reconsidered after the change deadline" can only be true if we assume that > > decision made by FESCo to "make an effort to notify people when proposals > > are resubmitted for voting" has no effect. And for it to have no effect > > the FESCo chair and other members would need to ignore the decision and > > the documented process [1]. > > Or they could try and fail to follow it. And no consequences will happen, > because, well, they tried, i.e., "made an effort". There is neither > accountability for the person who made the mistake, nor a sanction for the > feature that slipped through. I have no idea what you're trying to achieve, really. *Everything* that we do in Fedora is based on people voluntarily following the rules. There is no formal "accountability", there's no court to police the rules or apply sanctions. Things happen because we have a common goal and we all voluntarily follow processes. In this particular case, it is hard to define a hard rule because (as the discussion showed) the cases that would be covered by the rule differ a lot. There was no support for a hard rule in FESCo, and we ended up with his soft rule that (IMO) is good enough and will solve the original problem that started the whole discussion, while still giving people the discretion to handle various cases as appropriate. Since this is all a community process, if we implemented a very specific hard rule as you want, it'd still be the same people implementing it to the best of their ability. There would just be no possiblity of adjusting for the corner cases without breaking the letter of the rule. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
