Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-07)

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Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 05:49:24AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>> So basically we are stuck with the status quo. Meaning that there is
>> still nothing preventing an already rejected feature from being
>> surprisingly reconsidered after the change deadline, and no guarantee
>> that the "effort to notify people" is actually going to happen
>> (especially in the future, as FESCo composition changes). Sad. I had got
>> the impression that there were consensus in FESCo to improve the
>> situation. Apparently, that was a false impression, unfortunately.
> 
> Your assumption of bad faith from elected representatives of the community
> is worrying. You manage to imply bad intentions not only from the current
> group, but even from the future ones, yet unknown. Quite an achievement! I
> think that you are under a false impression that repeating your argument
> ad infinitum is useful for something.

Where in the paragraph you quoted have I written anything about bad faith? A 
lack of notification can happen by accident in good faith, as apparently 
happened in the case that triggered the whole debate. (At least, Neal Gompa 
swears it was an accident.) And without any kind of policy enforcing it, a 
pledge to "make an effort to notify people" is not a guarantee. That is all 
I stated.

Another issue that was not addressed by the proposal at all is that the 
change at stake was resubmitted too late, after the change submission 
deadline, and hence should not have been allowed on that ground.

In addition, being elected is not sufficient to guarantee good faith, as can 
be seen in politics. Not to mention that, in Fedora elections, there is 
often not enough competition for voters to vote out candidates they do not 
trust.

        Kevin Kofler
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