On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 7:17 PM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Speaking for myself, the only way in which the _FORTIFY_SOURCE change > impacted my opinion on -fno-omit-frame-pointers is that it made me > think about it again, and that the level of scrutiny myself - and > other members of FESCo - had given that change, had been > disproportionate. The _FORTIFY_SOURCE change really shouldn't even have prompted a discussion on the frame pointers change, let alone a reflection because there is absolutely nothing in common there. Especially in the context of scrutiny level; one is a security change that has no broad slowdown and another is a developer experience change that is shown to have a broad slowdown (characterized by minor or major depending on which side of the aisle you stand on). > And you might like it or not, I had just changed my > mind on the topic since we had the first vote. I wish you had spoken up sooner then, using the _FORTIFY_SOURCE change as the opportunity to speak up not only confused the whole thing, it also makes it harder to convince that the change of mind came independently. Sid _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue