On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 11:47:54AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2023 at 06:06:47PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > PS: The impression I get is that everything was deliberately rigged so that > > the vote would end up the way it did: > > > > 1. A new ticket was filed, in order to exclude the participants of the > > previous discussion. > > 2. The people watching the old ticket were NOT notified. > > 3. The Tools Team was NOT notified. > > 4. The proponents of the Change, on the other hand, WERE notified. > > I agree with your earlier post that this did not have enough visibility, > enough notice, or enough time. I was certainly taken by surprise, and I was > trying to keep an eye on this one in particular. (Having the discussion > under "Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting" didn't help it jump out at me > either.) Holding a FESCo meeting and vote on the very first working day after the long xmas / new year holiday is not exactly good timing if you want contributors to be broadly aware it is happening[1]. I might humbly suggest that next year, any important meetings that would naturally fall in the 1st week, be postponed until the 2nd week of Jan. With regards, Daniel [1] Yes, I'm aware that not every part of the world will shutdown during the xmas/new year period, but a large enough part of our contributor base does that its worth taking into account -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue