On Tue, 2022-09-06 at 18:18 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 06/09/2022 17:00, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > mobile device > > Requires proprietary Google services. > > > computer > > Requires proprietary TPM 2.0 chip. Hi, Neither of this is true. For example, I use Raivo on my iOS device which isn't proprietary. It seems that your concerns regarding 2FA are based on a number of misconceptions. 1. That it will cost money You can generate TOTP codes using password generators, desktop apps, or even by hand in the command line. It's a simple algorithm that doesn't even require an Internet connection. However, in order for it to truly be 2FA, it should be on a separate device (i.e, your phone) though generating it on the desktop is what people do if they have no external device. 2. That the algorithm will pose problems in other countries I'm aware of ITAR and munitions exports, but I'm not convinced SHA1 and HMAC poses as much of a problem as you say it does, even in Russia/China. 3. That it requires specialized hardware Again, not true. See part 1. TOTP should work on any device regardless of the underlying hardware so long as it supports basic cryptographic primitives. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue