On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:54 PM Kevin P. Fleming <kpfleming@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > In a similar (parallel) discussion related to future RHEL, it has been found this change also breaks resolution of many DNSSEC-secured domains which are still using SHA1 signatures. It is impossible to know how long it will be before those domains upgrade to better signatures, and at the moment it's rather challenging for resolvers to be able to determine that the resolution failure was caused by local policy instead of an actual invalid signature. It has been some time since I saw a report, but a few years ago >200 TLDs were using SHA-1. And while all have been encouraged to change (ICANN, among others, have been pointing out that while SHA-1, today, is not entirely broken, it could end up being some future emergency deprecation, and when the root itself was signed it started with SHA-256), change tends to be slow when the domain administrator wants to be sure not to break existing usage. I think you have pointed out an important issue in that unless the app implements a lot of the logic to validate the entire chain they are likely to just break, and not produce useful warnings, and having (for example) openssl produce the warnings is differently problematic (to where should the message go, for example). There is really no good answer here, as continuing to use crypto policies that are known (or should be known) to be weak is not a good answer either (heck, there are still apps using des). Damned if you want to be (more) secure, damned if you want to be insecure. I prefer to be damned for being secure, but I do understand there are others who prefer otherwise. Gary _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure