Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

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On 14.4.2022 22:24, Nikolay Nikolov wrote:

On 4/14/22 23:49, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 14.4.2022 18:20, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Robbie Harwood <rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
Given there is consensus that legacy BIOS is on its way out
I don't think this statement is true, unless Fedora doesn't want to be
considered for a bunch of popular VM hosts (e.g. Linode and such) that
have no stated plans to support UEFI.

Maybe "legacy BIOS on physical hardware" is on its way out


It's not an maybe, it is on it's way out either physically or simply via firmware update [1]

"In the bios, upgraded to 810 the option to enable legacy boot is greyed out"

So how do people propose the situation to be handled when firmware from vendors, disables the legacy boot option via firmware update.

Is Fedora supposed to block/blacklist those firmware updates via some plugin in lvfs based on user feedback when their legacy boot mode suddenly stops working or is it expected that upstream lvfs team looks into this or what?

Fedora doesn't install these updates. Users install these updates, when they have a problem


In the past they did, today users ( including the novice ones ) update it as Gnome notifies them about available update just like they do when they receive anyother software update notification.


And besides, non-UEFI systems don't normally receive BIOS updates that break legacy boot, because legacy boot is the only boot option available, so what is your point, exactly?


Obviously this was for dual bios mode ( legacy and uefi ) ( otherwise the option to disable it would not be there ) in which the vendor himself seemingly decided to disable the legacy part of the bios via firmware update which highlight the fact that we somehow need to deal with that situation if we want to continue to support the legacy bios option.

How I have no clue, which is why I pointed at an potential lvfs plugin or the lvfs team.


JBG

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