Hi, On 4/11/22 01:07, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > On 4/10/22 16:10, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 4:37 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski >> <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Friday, 08 April 2022 at 16:14, Zamir SUN wrote: >>> [...] >>>> Probably it isn't a problem for some users, but I'm still having bad >>>> experience with UEFI on x86_64 now. Out of my 3 machines I only have 1 >>>> system that works fine with UEFI. And my parents' laptop was purchased >>>> 2 years ago and the UEFI firmware does not allow to boot anything >>>> other than Windows on UEFI mode (regardless of turning secure boot on >>>> or off) and I have to switch to BIOS mode to make Fedora work there. >>>> So in this situation, I think it's way too aggressive to accept the >>>> change - this will probably drive away some potential new users with >>>> decent laptop like my parents'. >>> Have you tried renaming your Fedora boot entry to "Windows Boot >>> Manager"? I have one Sony laptop that boots only the boot entry with >>> that exact name. >>> >> I wonder if this would work with one of my old machines too. I've >> never thought to rename the boot entry in the firmware before... >> >> > > about "Windows Boot Manager" efi entry required to boot: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html > > the above happens too with the lenovo thinkcentre m91 Yes and some UEFI-s will only consider non USB disks to be bootable if they have a FAT ESP with EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi on there. Some of them are hardcoded to boot that file (just put shim + grubia32.efi / grubx64.efi there), while others check for the file, but boot another path (which may also be hardcoded) see: https://hansdegoede.dreamwidth.org/24232.html For a couple of devices which I encountered which do this. I did not know about the "Windows Boot Manager" name being a thing too. So yes so much for UEFI being a sensible standard... Regards, Hans _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure