Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

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Hi,

On 4/11/22 01:07, Gabriel Ramirez wrote:
> On 4/10/22 16:10, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 4:37 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
>> <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Friday, 08 April 2022 at 16:14, Zamir SUN wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> Probably it isn't a problem for some users, but I'm still having bad
>>>> experience with UEFI on x86_64 now. Out of my 3 machines I only have 1
>>>> system that works fine with UEFI. And my parents' laptop was purchased
>>>> 2 years ago and the UEFI firmware does not allow to boot anything
>>>> other than Windows on UEFI mode (regardless of turning secure boot on
>>>> or off) and I have to switch to BIOS mode to make Fedora work there.
>>>> So in this situation, I think it's way too aggressive to accept the
>>>> change - this will probably drive away some potential new users with
>>>> decent laptop like my parents'.
>>> Have you tried renaming your Fedora boot entry to "Windows Boot
>>> Manager"? I have one Sony laptop that boots only the boot entry with
>>> that exact name.
>>>
>> I wonder if this would work with one of my old machines too. I've
>> never thought to rename the boot entry in the firmware before...
>>
>>
> 
> about "Windows Boot Manager" efi entry required to boot: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html
> 
> the above happens too with the lenovo thinkcentre m91

Yes and some UEFI-s will only consider non USB disks to be bootable if they
have a FAT ESP with  EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi on there.

Some of them are hardcoded to boot that file (just put shim + grubia32.efi
/ grubx64.efi there), while others check for the file, but boot another
path (which may also be hardcoded) see:

https://hansdegoede.dreamwidth.org/24232.html

For a couple of devices which I encountered which do this. I did not
know about the "Windows Boot Manager" name being a thing too.

So yes so much for UEFI being a sensible standard...

Regards,

Hans

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