Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 1:31 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
<zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 10:43:02AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mi, 06.04.22 07:33, Neal Gompa (ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> > > Irrespective of this change, I would flat-out oppose moving to
> > > sd-boot. In any case, you can't use sd-boot for live media.
> > >
> > > If we were going to move to pure EFI boot manager, I'd rather use one
> > > that has a decent user experience and not a barebones crappy one.
> >
> > OK, I'll bite.
> >
> > What are you missing in sd-boot, specifically?
> >
> > Also, why would a boot menu need a particularly fancy user experience?
> > It's a boot manager, not a web browser.
>
> "barebones crappy one" is pretty strong. I'm too am interested in
> hearing what is so wrong with the sd-boot experience.

The problem with systemd-boot is it still has an interface. I prefer
no interface for bootloaders.

I'm a bit frustrated that systemd-boot isn't signed, and apparently (I
guess) shim hard codes GRUB as the next bootloader?

This portion of the thread maybe ought to be split out?

-- 
Chris Murphy
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