On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 09:43:05AM +0100, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:18 AM Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Dne 15. 02. 22 v 22:08 Matthew Kenigsberg napsal(a): > > > > It sounds like there's already some effort to make tasks in RPMs like adding users more declarative: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/UsersAndGroups/ > > > > Which is still not finished and you still need to call the old scriptlet when you need the user to exist during %post. :( > > > > Do you think it would be possible to move some of the configuration tasks performed in scriptlets into something declarative that could be merged with other configuration? > > > > Yes. Take the > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/rpm-specs-latest.tar.xz > > > > grep for common scriptlets and resolve them one-by-one. Starting with common one. But it is huge task! > > > > You can choose where you will start: > > > > * mkfontdir - which can be replaced by filetriggers. > > > > * update-desktop-database - which - I believe - has been already replaced by filetriggers, but it is still used. > > > > *update-alternatives - which no one yet touched > > > > .... and many many others > > Do I understand correctly that there is a general agreement that it is > the right direction to take, and the main reason why we are not there > yet is the size of the effort? Definitely. I have long said that any time there's a scriptlet in an RPM package, we should work towards removing it. BTW I found this F31 change proposal. Did it happen? The bug was CLOSED/CURRENTRELEASE. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LimitScriptletUsage https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754666 > I tried to find any good doc but the page in Packaging Guidelines > doesn't say anything about scriptlets being discouraged: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Scriptlets/ > > Maybe we should make some long-term landing page for this initiative, > similarly to what Miro and the Python team did for Python 2 to Python > 3 migration? So that it is easier to get people started on it. > > The list you posted can already be a good start. > > And I don't think proven packagers rights will be really necessary as > the work can be done via merge requests and should be accessible for > all. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
