Hi, On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:18 AM Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dne 15. 02. 22 v 22:08 Matthew Kenigsberg napsal(a): > > It sounds like there's already some effort to make tasks in RPMs like adding users more declarative: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/UsersAndGroups/ > > Which is still not finished and you still need to call the old scriptlet when you need the user to exist during %post. :( > > Do you think it would be possible to move some of the configuration tasks performed in scriptlets into something declarative that could be merged with other configuration? > > Yes. Take the > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/rpm-specs-latest.tar.xz > > grep for common scriptlets and resolve them one-by-one. Starting with common one. But it is huge task! > > You can choose where you will start: > > * mkfontdir - which can be replaced by filetriggers. > > * update-desktop-database - which - I believe - has been already replaced by filetriggers, but it is still used. > > *update-alternatives - which no one yet touched > > .... and many many others Do I understand correctly that there is a general agreement that it is the right direction to take, and the main reason why we are not there yet is the size of the effort? I tried to find any good doc but the page in Packaging Guidelines doesn't say anything about scriptlets being discouraged: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Scriptlets/ Maybe we should make some long-term landing page for this initiative, similarly to what Miro and the Python team did for Python 2 to Python 3 migration? So that it is easier to get people started on it. The list you posted can already be a good start. And I don't think proven packagers rights will be really necessary as the work can be done via merge requests and should be accessible for all. -- Aleksandra Fedorova bookwar _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure