On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 1:39 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > since you have the script handy, could you check how many (non-pp) > packagers would be reported as inactive pretty please? Maybe with the > inactivility threshold raised to 1 year instead of 0.5 y. I had to run it a second time with the listing disabled because the first time the output was too long for my terminal's scrollback. :-) But! Of 2453 packagers, 1514 have not submitted a Koji build since at least 2021-02-11. 1311 of those have not submitted a Koji build since at least 2020-02-06. An additional 113 do not exist in Koji. > I think that if we disabled completely inactive accounts after a year > or two, this would be reasonable from security perspective. There are > many many packages which are now maintained by other people so packagers > can effectively maintain co-ownership without committing to a package > for years. I have concerns with this approach. I would guess there's a long tail of packagers that maintain relatively few packages. These packages might not have frequent upstream releases or require new manual builds. Someone who hasn't needed to build a package in 13 months may still be active in other ways and it would be hostile to strip them of packager permission in that case. We'd want to be very careful about how we define "active" (which is a thorny question project-wide that we don't have a great answer for). We'd also want to give people the chance to say "no, I'm still here", which makes this a fairly manual process. If we were to automate it, we absolutely should have a trivial way for people to regain packager status (i.e. not have to get re-sponsored, etc). I would support removing the 113 who don't exist in Koji. And maybe any packagers without a build over an exceedingly long period of time (say 5 years?) as a starting point. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure