On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 09:55:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 11. 10. 21 21:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>On 11. 10. 21 20:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >>>On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 08:21:51AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >>>>Dne 07. 10. 21 v 18:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > >>>>>When are you supposed to run remove-retired-packages? > >>>>After the upgrade. > >>>>> > >>>>>If you run remove-retired-packages after the upgrade, you already > >>>>>managed to upgrade and nothing is broken, no? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Nothing is broken **now**. But it very often broke N+1 or N+2 > >>>>upgrade. I remember some package broken N+5 upgrade. And then you > >>>>(or some co-maintainer) hesitated to add it to > >>>>fedora-obsolete-packages because "it is too old". :) > >>> > >>>That's why we should keep packages in f-o-p for much longer than we > >>>currently do. There was just a thread about Jiri upgrading from F22 > >>>to a recent release. That procedure would have been made easier if > >>>f-o-p had more packages. > >>> > >>>What exactly is the rationale for constantly trimming the list in f-o-p? > >> > >>It is a huge mess to maintain. > > > >Hmm, I still don't get it. It's just a list that you append to at the end. > >Old entries don't need to be touched at all. > > The list is super huge and provenpackagers add stuff to the middle > of it or create duplicate entries. I've seen that happening even > when it's starting to get huge before the cleanup. The first issue should be fixed by better documentation. The second issue can be fixed by a test. I'd be happy to submit a PR if that'd help. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure