On Fri, 2021-07-02 at 12:23 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 09:05, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > clubs. This has been going on for 15+ years going from the moin days > > to the now days and I don't expect it to change. If QA didnt use it > > for their testing dumping grounds, I would melt the wiki down to its > > component parts years ago. > > The term 'dumping grounds' has a lot of negative connotations which I > should have realized. My apologies to everyone in QA as it sounds like > I was insulting their work. My connotation was that they have a lot of > automated scripts and programs which write to the wiki in places and > that in the end they are the primary users of the wiki. Trying to move > them out of it would require a large amount of work by multiple teams. > It is not a dumping grounds. It's worth noting that we don't still 'need the wiki' as a place to dump *automated* test results. It's rather the reverse. We still need it for *manual* tests and results. If we only had the automated tests and results, we could ditch the wiki tomorrow, because the tests themselves are stored in code repos, and the results all go to resultsdb (and fedora-messaging). The reason we still need the wiki is that it's where we keep *manual* test cases and results. We 'mirror' relevant automated test results to the wiki so there's a single place where you can see everything. If we had some place other than the wiki to store manual test cases and results, we could stop using it, but that has proved rather difficult. An alternative idea would be a restricted wiki instance which only allowed the creation of pages with names following the patterns used for QA purposes, and perhaps only allowed unauthenticated users to submit edits which consisted entirely of valid "test results"... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
