On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 05:34:02PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > Hey all, > > Earlier this week, I was helping with processing features for openSUSE > Leap 15.4[1] and I discovered that they're planning on introducing > x86_64-v2 to openSUSE soon. The reference for this change was that > RHEL 9 is going to use x86_64-v2[2]. Additionally, other distributions > have been considering bumping up to v2 or v3[3][4]. > > Some cursory examination of the new x86_64 sublevels seem to indicate > that x86_64-v2 goes back to roughly 2007~2008, merely cutting off the > first couple of generations of x86_64 CPUs from Intel and AMD. I > personally don't have any computers that don't have support for > x86_64-v2 anymore. Yes, you loose primarily Intel Conroe and Penryn generations and AMD Opteron Gen 1 -> Gen 3. I doubt this is a significant portion of Fedora installs. Slight tangent but I find Fedora's approach to hardware somewhat at odds with our approach to software. On the one hand we portray our project as a place for cutting edge Linux software & innovation. On the other hand we hold back our software by trying to keep supporting long obsolete hardware. There is of course always a balance between bumping min hardware specs and the impact on maintainers & users, but I'm not convinced that we have the balance right in targeting our x86_64 baseline at the very first generation of 64-bit CPUs from 15 years ago. I can't imagine such old CPUs makes up a significant portion of our users. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure