Re: The Javapocalypse is Monday

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On Fri, 2021-06-04 at 07:34 -0400, Coty Sutherland wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 5:56 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-06-03 at 15:30 -0600, Jerry James wrote:
> > > I've just been looking through my packager-dashboard page.  A
> > > depressingly large chunk of my packages are going to become
> > > unbuildable on Monday when a bunch of orphaned Java packages are
> > > retired.  I think a lot of us are going to be affected.  In my
> > case,
> > > there are quite a few non-Java packages involved (due to the parser
> > > generators antlr3 and antlr4-project), primarily OCaml and python
> > > packages.  Mikolaj has a huge pile of work on his shoulders, so
> > don't
> > > take this as criticism of him.
> > > 
> > > Here are some of the pain points:
> > > - log4j will be retired, which will break ant.
> > > - hamcrest2 will be retired, which will break apache-commons-lang3,
> > > which will break bcel, which will also break ant.
> > > - google-gson and javassist will be retired, which will break
> > > reflections, which will break jna, which is used by about a dozen
> > > packages, including bcel.
> > 
> > I may take these 4 
> > 
> 
> 
> That would be great :D My package (Tomcat) still uses ant to build, so
> if you could save it from retirement that would be great. I don't have
> bandwidth to take on any additional packages right now, but I don't
> mind being a co-maintainer if you feel you need it.
>  
> > 
> > > - maven-install-plugin will be retired, which will break tycho,
> > which
> > > will break eclipse.
> > 
> > Eclipse for me may fall, I already use eclipse installer from
> > https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ 
> > 
> > 
> > > - args4j will be retired, which will break jacoco and jgit.
> > > - maven-invoker-plugin and several of its dependencies
> > > (maven-doxia-sitetools, plexus-velocity, maven-reporting-api,
> > > maven-script-interpreter, and maven-reporting-impl) will be
> > retired,
> > > which will break xml-maven-plugin, which is used by eclipse.
> > > - jakarta-el and jakarta-server-pages will be retired, which will
> > > break eclipse.
> > > - aopalliance will be retired, which will break maven-native.
> > > - jdependency will be retired, which will break maven-shade-plugin,
> > > which is used by openjfx8, a dependency of java-1.8.0-openjdk.
> > > - apache-ivy will be retired, which will break javapackages-tools.
> > > 
> > 
> > I can also take these two jdependency and  apache-ivy . 
> > 
> > maybe I should also take maven-invoker-plugin . 
> > 
> > what do you think ?
> > 
> > 
> > > I have packages that depend directly on the following, so I am
> > > willing
> > > to adopt them if nobody more competent shows up (although there is
> > no
> > > point in taking ant-contrib if ant is going to be broken anyway):
> > > - ant-contrib
> > > - jakarta-common-httpclient
> > > - jakarta-ws-rs
> > > - maven-invoker-plugin
> > > - spec-version-maven-plugin
> > > 
> > > I introduced the jansi1 and jline2 packages so that jansi could be
> > > moved to 2.x and jline to 3.x, but I don't actually maintain any
> > > packages that need the old versions.  I would like to give them
> > away
> > > to someone who needs them, but note that you will need to grab
> > > jansi-native as well, before Monday!
> > > 
> > > Has anybody already done something about any of these packages (and
> > > my
> > > packager-dashboard page just hasn't caught up yet)?  Is anybody
> > > planning to do something about any of these packages before they
> > are
> > > retired on Monday?
> > 
> 
> 
> I've dropped all the direct dependencies that I had which were being
> orphaned, so the only outstanding problems I have are ant (which may be
> addressed by Sérgio) and javapackages-tools, which I'm a bit confused
> about. It seems that the latest build relies on java-11, not java-8 so
> not sure why it's showing up that way in the dep map. It seems that the
> map isn't generated often, so maybe it's just outdated?
> 

For now, I took log4j, apache-ivy and jdependency 

I will evaluate google-gson and javassist (*)

Best regards,

(*)
- google-gson and javassist will be retired, which will break
 reflections, which will break jna, which is used by about a dozen
 packages, including bcel.


> 

-- 
Sérgio M. B.
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