Re: The Javapocalypse is Monday

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:44 PM Coty Sutherland
<csutherl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 5:56 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 2021-06-03 at 15:30 -0600, Jerry James wrote:
>> > I've just been looking through my packager-dashboard page.  A
>> > depressingly large chunk of my packages are going to become
>> > unbuildable on Monday when a bunch of orphaned Java packages are
>> > retired.  I think a lot of us are going to be affected.  In my case,
>> > there are quite a few non-Java packages involved (due to the parser
>> > generators antlr3 and antlr4-project), primarily OCaml and python
>> > packages.  Mikolaj has a huge pile of work on his shoulders, so don't
>> > take this as criticism of him.
>> >
>> > Here are some of the pain points:
>> > - log4j will be retired, which will break ant.
>> > - hamcrest2 will be retired, which will break apache-commons-lang3,
>> > which will break bcel, which will also break ant.
>> > - google-gson and javassist will be retired, which will break
>> > reflections, which will break jna, which is used by about a dozen
>> > packages, including bcel.
>>
>> I may take these 4
>
>
> That would be great :D My package (Tomcat) still uses ant to build, so if you could save it from retirement that would be great. I don't have bandwidth to take on any additional packages right now, but I don't mind being a co-maintainer if you feel you need it.
>
>>
>> > - maven-install-plugin will be retired, which will break tycho, which
>> > will break eclipse.
>>
>> Eclipse for me may fall, I already use eclipse installer from
>> https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
>>
>>
>> > - args4j will be retired, which will break jacoco and jgit.
>> > - maven-invoker-plugin and several of its dependencies
>> > (maven-doxia-sitetools, plexus-velocity, maven-reporting-api,
>> > maven-script-interpreter, and maven-reporting-impl) will be retired,
>> > which will break xml-maven-plugin, which is used by eclipse.
>> > - jakarta-el and jakarta-server-pages will be retired, which will
>> > break eclipse.
>> > - aopalliance will be retired, which will break maven-native.
>> > - jdependency will be retired, which will break maven-shade-plugin,
>> > which is used by openjfx8, a dependency of java-1.8.0-openjdk.
>> > - apache-ivy will be retired, which will break javapackages-tools.
>> >
>>
>> I can also take these two jdependency and  apache-ivy .
>>
>> maybe I should also take maven-invoker-plugin .
>>
>> what do you think ?
>>
>>
>> > I have packages that depend directly on the following, so I am
>> > willing
>> > to adopt them if nobody more competent shows up (although there is no
>> > point in taking ant-contrib if ant is going to be broken anyway):
>> > - ant-contrib
>> > - jakarta-common-httpclient
>> > - jakarta-ws-rs
>> > - maven-invoker-plugin
>> > - spec-version-maven-plugin
>> >
>> > I introduced the jansi1 and jline2 packages so that jansi could be
>> > moved to 2.x and jline to 3.x, but I don't actually maintain any
>> > packages that need the old versions.  I would like to give them away
>> > to someone who needs them, but note that you will need to grab
>> > jansi-native as well, before Monday!
>> >
>> > Has anybody already done something about any of these packages (and
>> > my
>> > packager-dashboard page just hasn't caught up yet)?  Is anybody
>> > planning to do something about any of these packages before they are
>> > retired on Monday?
>
>
> I've dropped all the direct dependencies that I had which were being orphaned, so the only outstanding problems I have are ant (which may be addressed by Sérgio) and javapackages-tools, which I'm a bit confused about. It seems that the latest build relies on java-11, not java-8 so not sure why it's showing up that way in the dep map. It seems that the map isn't generated often, so maybe it's just outdated?

Some subpackages of javapackages-tools depend on OpenJDK 11, some on OpenJDK 8.
That is intentional - it gives packagers an ability to choose which
JDK should be used to build their packages.

--
Mikolaj Izdebski

>
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