Re: The Javapocalypse is Monday

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On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 11:31 PM Jerry James <loganjerry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I've just been looking through my packager-dashboard page.  A
> depressingly large chunk of my packages are going to become
> unbuildable on Monday when a bunch of orphaned Java packages are
> retired.  I think a lot of us are going to be affected.  In my case,
> there are quite a few non-Java packages involved (due to the parser
> generators antlr3 and antlr4-project), primarily OCaml and python
> packages.  Mikolaj has a huge pile of work on his shoulders, so don't
> take this as criticism of him.
>
> Here are some of the pain points:
> - log4j will be retired, which will break ant.
> - hamcrest2 will be retired, which will break apache-commons-lang3,
> which will break bcel, which will also break ant.
> - google-gson and javassist will be retired, which will break
> reflections, which will break jna, which is used by about a dozen
> packages, including bcel.
> - maven-install-plugin will be retired, which will break tycho, which
> will break eclipse.
> - args4j will be retired, which will break jacoco and jgit.
> - maven-invoker-plugin and several of its dependencies
> (maven-doxia-sitetools, plexus-velocity, maven-reporting-api,
> maven-script-interpreter, and maven-reporting-impl) will be retired,
> which will break xml-maven-plugin, which is used by eclipse.
> - jakarta-el and jakarta-server-pages will be retired, which will break eclipse.
> - aopalliance will be retired, which will break maven-native.
> - jdependency will be retired, which will break maven-shade-plugin,
> which is used by openjfx8, a dependency of java-1.8.0-openjdk.
> - apache-ivy will be retired, which will break javapackages-tools.

There's even more problems. Some of those packages are also transitive
dependencies of PKI and FreeIPA (core component of Fedora Server
etc.).
I knew two of the guys who worked on the Fedora packages for this
stack, but both have since left Red Hat, so I have no idea what's
going on there.
In general, despite Red Hat's generally big involvement in the Java
world (with OpenJDK, JBoss, WildFly, Quarkus, etc.), their interest in
actually maintaining packages for those projects (except the JDKs) is
... non-existent, which I find baffling.

Fabio
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