On Mon, 2021-01-11 at 00:46 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 10. 01. 21 23:25, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 02:20:04PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > All this does is making it again harder to issue bug fixes for the very > > > > packages where it matters the most. > > > > > > But...if the tests pass it doesn't, and I already said that the tests > > > pretty much always pass and I actively work to resolve any case where a > > > test fails when it shouldn't. > > > > > > You're not going to be waiving results for every update, here. It would > > > be a pretty rare occurrence. > > > > And, also hopefully also a rare occasion, but if this were enabled (and the > > definitions up to date), problems like > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/CAS6KHTZLR6LUNWEVK3BOIO6HVNQDETZ/#N5HJDKMTGOTL44BT2HZ43LE6Q23345IQ > > would be caught before they hit users. > > I believe we should gate on installability first. > > See https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2343 If the package is actually part of the test scenario, openQA effectively does this. There is a check wired into all the update tests at the end. It checks whether any package that's in one of the updates is installed, but is *not* the version from the update, and fails if so - because this usually means the package was not installable, so when the test updated the system with the packages from the update available, dnf did not update it. openQA won't catch a package not being installable if it is not actually part of the system-under-test in any of the tests, but most critical path packages ought to be. Is there any reason you think these need to go in a particular order? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx