On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 01:45:13PM -0700, PGNet Dev wrote: > anyone else more confused? > > On 9/30/20 1:26 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And like it or not, all our legacy network configuration mechanisms > > are deprecated and*will be removed eventually*. > > is plain-vanilla systemd-networkd -- no NM wrapper around it, no (in)direct dependency on systemd-resolved -- considered 'legacy'? NM does not wrap systemd-networkd. Both remain fully independent ways to configure networking. The future of systemd-networkd is unclear: it is being developed upstream, but is largely unused in Fedora. It does work well in certain scenarios, as you know. I don't think there's any plan to change this. > > Moreover, *all* Fedora variants use NetworkManager. *ALL* OSTree > variants, as shipped today, *MUST* use NetworkManager. > > how 'bout I turn the question around ... > > what specific steps must be done POST- F32->F32 upgrade to > > (1) not use NetworkManager > (2) not use systemd-resolved > > (3) return/preserve local configs for systemd-networkd & 'enterprise' (own resolver) DNS configs? I don't think there's anything special needed for (1) and (3). For (2), please create a preset to disable systemd-resolved. E.g.: echo 'disable systemd-resolved.service' >/etc/systemd/system-preset/20-resolved.preset This will start being enough with the next systemd build though. I just pushed a change to not create the symlink if resolved is disabled: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/systemd/c/d3d43af8adf70974f5e52d31df0b46935ff2ded2?branch=f33. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx