anyone else more confused? On 9/30/20 1:26 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > And like it or not, all our legacy network configuration mechanisms > are deprecated and*will be removed eventually*. is plain-vanilla systemd-networkd -- no NM wrapper around it, no (in)direct dependency on systemd-resolved -- considered 'legacy'? > Moreover, *all* Fedora variants use NetworkManager. *ALL* OSTree variants, as shipped today, *MUST* use NetworkManager. how 'bout I turn the question around ... what specific steps must be done POST- F32->F32 upgrade to (1) not use NetworkManager (2) not use systemd-resolved (3) return/preserve local configs for systemd-networkd & 'enterprise' (own resolver) DNS configs? ? > Regular Fedora is considerably more customizable post-installation than OSTree-based variants. For those of us that don't live&breathe the lingo, it's not exactly clear what 'Regular Fedora' is. Is there _any_ variant of Fedora that's immune now, and in the planned future, from "use NetworkManger" and (therefore) systemd-resolved? Iiuc, the upgrades WILL install/enable systemd-resolved; that's post-upgrade maintenance that apparently needs to be planned for -- as long as its still doable. If/when does that no longer remain an option? _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx