Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

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Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:14:14PM -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote:
>> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> 
>> > Pfff, now I'm confused. Here is a case where systemd-resolved
>> > implements the standard, and some people were unhappy because they
>> > were relying on sloppy implementations which don't follow the RFC.
>> 
>> Yes, welcome to software development!
>> 
>> Sometimes people care about the standard and sometimes the standard
>> isn't helpful.  You can bemoan it, or belittle the users as you are
>> doing here, but *that's how it is*.
>
> I agree, but I was replying to a mail which said that systemd-resolved does
> not follow the standard. In *this* particular case, that complaint is off
> target.
>
>> The only way you can find out which
>> approach to take is to *figure out what the people in the space
>> expect*.  In other words, it requires human contact and understanding of
>> the problems - not just guessing in a vacuum.
>
> There is more than one space... and different people have different
> expectations. What systemd-resolved was doing seems the appropriate
> thing for 90% of cases, but we also implemented an opt-in for the
> other behaviour. So I don't think you're being fair when you're saying
> "[I] bemoan it, or belittle the users", since I implemented the opt-in and
> I didn't even say anything about the users.

Then I have misinterpreted your intent in the opening of your email -
"Pfff" struck me as dismissive, and this was compounded by your
statement that "some people were unhappy".  I see this was not your
intent and withdraw that criticism.

Thanks,
--Robbie

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