Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

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On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:15:36PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 13:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 09:44:13AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> > > After reading https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8967, I really
> > > don't think that systemd-resolved's benefits outweigh its harms as a
> > > default resolver for Fedora.  If someone wants to write a
> > > libfriendlydnsresolver and encourage/patch programs to use it instead of
> > > using glibc's resolver or reading resolv.conf, then that could be debated
> > > on its merits.  But the actual contents of /etc/resolv.conf should follow
> > > the relevant standards, and systemd-resolved does not.
> > >
> > > Perhaps systemd-resolved could change its mind and decide to comply with
> > > all relevant standards.  But until then, it seems inappropriate to me for
> > > it to be the default in Fedora.
> >
> > Pfff, now I'm confused. Here is a case where systemd-resolved implements
> > the
> > standard, and some people were unhappy because they were relying on sloppy
> > implementations which don't follow the RFC. Nevertheless, we added an
> > opt-in
> > switch to make this work. (Since this feature mostly matters in "special"
> > setups like k8s, where you need to do a lot of local setup anyway,
> > requiring
> > a one-line option seems to be reasonable).
> >
> 
> Hey for those of us in the peanuts gallery watching this play out.. could
> each of you point out which standards and RFC you are complying too. There
> are a lot of ones and funny enough.. they don't all agree with each other
> at times.

https://www.iab.org/documents/correspondence-reports-documents/2013-2/iab-statement-dotless-domains-considered-harmful/
in this particular case.

Zbyszek
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