On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:01 AM David Kaufmann <astra@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Unfortunately I think this arguing is moot, as the issue seems to have > been decided already anyway. I only remember one change "proposal" to > actually being pulled back in the last year, and I'm really disappointed > about having fake discussions on devel@ whilst the decision has already > been made. It is incorrect to assume this change is a done deal. Community feedback is critical to the Changes process (and is one of the key factors behind why we replaced the Features process). To wit, five change proposals were rejected by FESCo for Fedora 32 alone: 1. https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2323#comment-624955 2. https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2291#comment-615815 3. https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2268#comment-611948 4. https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2241#comment-609153 5. https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2198#comment-587826 In addition, change proposals can be withdrawn by the owner before being submitted to FESCo, as happened last week: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/VWY3HAH5GJOOBCYLB5SSFTYYJRPBQTUB/ Changes are often updated based on community feedback (which is why we recently added a section to the proposal explicitly to record some of that feedback). One example is the proposal to improve the counting in DNF. The original[1] received a lot of feedback about the privacy implications, so it was withdrawn and reworked to take that feedback into account[2]. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes/DNF_UUID&oldid=531449 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Better_Counting -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
