Hi, On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 06:48:56PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Nothing in vi's default view (if launched with a file, which is what > happens in this case) tells you you need to press 'insert' in order to > actually edit anything. Nothing in vi's default view tells you you have > to type the entirely cryptic sequence ":wq" to save and exit (or gives since vim addresses this when opened without a file and it is open source, it seems to me to be a good idea to propose to adjust vim behaviour to show the help overview when opening a file as well. For example if there is no ~/.vimrc or some other indicator that shows the user does not know vim, yet. Did someone discuss improving the novice user experience with the vim developers, yet? What was the outcome? Thanks Till _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx