On 26 June 2020 21:32:31 CEST, Igor Raits <ignatenkobrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA512 >> >> Josef's server parks is a bit of a different use case than laptops as >> other people has already pointed out. >> If you want data on how it works in a desktop/laptop scenario talk to >> openSUSE users about how many times the "btrfs randomly ate my >> volume"-bug was "fixed". >> >> When I ran an environment of about 4500 SLES and about 5000 RHEL >> servers btrfs failed about 3 times as often as xfs (this from our own >> in-house statistics). That was 3 years ago but filesystems takes long >> to mature and I have been keeping ear near openSUSE to see where it >> goes. >> Is this as big as Josef's environment? No but it is first hand data >> to me (to you it is of course just anecdotal evidence) > >Keep in mind that SLES does backport btrfs patches because they support >it. RHEL does not. And we are talking about Fedora here anyway. We didn't use BTRFS on any RHEL machines only on the SLES ones. > >> BTRFS has the potential to become great, I just think it isn't there >> yet and it'll take 5 years of smooth sailing to convince me. > >Probably you should try it with Fedora's kernel? Oh I will, when BTRFS has had smooth sailing for 5 years. I have no problem with others running btrfs, I just think it should be the default since we seem to be all about not creating problems for new users. That's at least what the recent changes tell me :) > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Fedora Code of Conduct: >> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> > List Guidelines: >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> > List Archives: >> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >- -- >Igor Raits <ignatenkobrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcwgJ58gsbV5f5dMcEV1auJxcHh4FAl72TU8ACgkQEV1auJxc >Hh759w//XHCXloEj6QAUNpVxCEljVwm1WQVl1jfH3p+mex1a5Dan242COXkVaEzy >6zR79EZf7ONg1dTU41fq1mg3gWkFAE/q+OD4cSJ/Jbwyt/L+L40MgD1h7UmNo0/P >uytLZYC3BUIq9ARAH2DlYMHSQUcYZ8TOyrlxWUmkyqPnc99D9CkkqReRjWA/EtYi >mVNOzCQwdMefSJu6+HZlFIhyYeyBbmfu/Q0v5uQE9CQbmN/AuyTHmWG3jRYTINxg >7w8vFPLwjUEmUno+i0Jvkdr4EqSZihV4ljoA0MO8OEADHamjnUOWX8HiFN6E6y+V >cDXPvVTqdf7v+Hz6j6F2cUDbm6PQrbd5fODMeCVibuE5knDB587jRcrqXYfSp+wL >66VRnHXYrOAMHXKlcs+XpPxkqfy5AdgvkP63PUZTWb4yb4wElVVpFNsBf2wk7TXu >kp9cKSf+1CSaIq0oD1uY9YB4Xm9elI3pRJJHuH8TrOKI4RsxnmjXdpXB+pzNf8BH >8PQex0mAwcvefiK0MfaJcl6cP9PgIvvAb75OoWulEsXGG9uPT1ZknYwgXPFN+eDs >T5Wr/7957eiDDgYDtxPXQfliI58AtnCh1ysNcEf5vRLEARs3HLT8Mo+Z+o78ZvpG >ZNYkixPYKGrGrUdLJzwXqlQAy6wlNXDzTIxPtrXy5DHMkuAAAqo= >=2hBc >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >_______________________________________________ >devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx