Re: subtle issue with systemd, dnf 'greedy' obsoletes behaviour, and multiple repos

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On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 02:10:12PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi folks! openQA caught a subtle issue in a systemd update over the
> weekend, and I thought it would be worth flagging up here both to let
> people know about it and also to see if anyone has a better solution
> than the one I came up with.
> 
> The issue affects this systemd update for F32:
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-dd43dd05b1
> that update provides systemd-245.6-1.fc32 . The stable release of
> Fedora 32 contains systemd-245.4-1.fc32.

Hi Adam,

thanks for the deep investigation (and also for setting up onenqa in the
first place, I don't think we'd have caught the issue otherwise.)

> Another factor here is that DNF's behaviour when multiple different
> available packages obsolete an installed package on update is 'greedy'.
> If 'bar', 'moo' and 'meep' all obsolete 'foo' and are available on
> update, DNF will try to install *all three*. This is intentional and
> necessary when e.g. a package is split in two and we want both the new
> packages to be installed in place of the old one. (If it's just
> multiple available versions of the *same* package that all obsolete an
> installed package, DNF will simply try to select the newest one as part
> of the update, which is fine).

I think this "greedy" behaviour is correct: we rely on this to allow
package splits. There was some discussion whether dnf is in the wrong here,
but it seems to be doing everything correctly.

> the solution I was able to find that works is to have systemd-
> udev Obsoletes: systemd < 245.6-1. This seems to correctly clue DNF in
> to the situation and cause it to leave out anything from 245.4-1.fc32
> in the upgrade.

Yep, this sounds like the correct solution. systemd-udev Requires systemd,
and systemd is only provided by systemd, so there doesn't seem to be any
chance of systemd getting uninstalled.

Zbyszek
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