On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 9:02 AM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > One thing that I think this conversation thread *has* achieved is > > identifying that most Fedorans don't consider a FESCo member voting in > > favor of their own Change Proposal to be a conflict of interest. I > > think we should probably recognize this and take that out of the > > equation (which also has the side-effect of reducing the frequency we > > might need to deal with such things). > > For the record, I *do* consider this a conflict of interest. > > But there are actually many more conflicts of interest that are not > immediately recognized, even by the people concerned. Many FESCo members are > members of some workgroup and will thus be biased in favor of changes > submitted by that workgroup. I don't think this necessarily is as strong conflict of interest as you'd expect. Most folks are involved in multiple teams (WGs, SIGs, etc.) and those "conflicts" naturally exist. I think the only *real* conflict would be a change owner voting *for* their change. For example, If this were such a thing to worry about, I'd be unable to vote for any change proposal, due to the number of groups I *actually* do work in. > Also, FESCo members are often Red Hat > employees. > Only way to fix that is for more non-RHers to run for FESCo. ;) But again, I don't necessarily see them being employed by Red Hat as a negative there. It *does* induce some bias, for sure, but in general, this is a lot less pronounced than many folks would expect. And I'm speaking as someone who tends to run into them more often than not. ;) Today, there are a mix of Red Hat and non-Red Hat folks, and it seems to work out fine. And even Red Hatters have pushed back against other Red Hat-driven changes. So I think this fear is mostly unfounded. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
