Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

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On Sat, 16 May 2020 11:23:03 +0200
Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Le vendredi 15 mai 2020 à 08:30 -0700, stan via devel a écrit :
> > On Fri, 15 May 2020 08:02:34 +0200
> > Michal Srb <msrb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > An aside, just to clarify for myself.  That means that all Java apps
> > are
> > the equivalent of statically linked, right?  And are related to
> > things
> > like flatpaks and modules?  
> 
> No, that’s similar to venv everywhere. The language has bytecode-
> sharing objects. Java upstreams just got used not to share those
> executable objects between projects, not to version them properly, not
> to manage their ABI breaks, and to change things in the local copy
> instead of contributing changes to the original project.
> 
> That’s non-free software open source to its extreme. The code is
> available for a dev to copy and resell at his next work, but
> everything is organised (at the human not technical level) so it’s
> not possible to reuse the bytecode directly without paying someone to
> copy and fork the original code that this bytecode was generated from
> in the next project.
> 
> The practical effect is technical stagnation and market capture by
> deep pocket companies.

Thanks for the explanation.
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