Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

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On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:33 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
<zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The wiki is not that bad actually. The links to guidelines and package
> lists are still useful. Even the packaging wishlist is mostly up to
> date since we didn't manage to touch most of the items ;)
> So maybe just nuke the outdated parts (member lists, "state of affairs"
> content), and keep the rest?

Fair point. I'll make sure we keep the parts that are still up-to-date
and/or interesting.

> > Major upcoming projects for the "new" Java Package Maintainers group include:
> >
> > - managing OpenJDK 11 / Java 11 transition for hundreds of Java
> > packages in fedora 33
> > - starting to transition well-maintained Java packages from the
> > Stewardship SIG back into Java SIG
> > - possibly porting packages from gradle to maven to fix build issues
> > and broken dependencies
>
> What about packaging gradle instead? (In the cases I looked into,
> porting from gradle to maven would be rewriting the build system from
> scratch. Assuming that we have tens and will have hundreds of packages
> with gradle, in the long term it seems better to support gradle, even
> in some partial form, than to rewrite build systems of hundreds of
> packages...).

Uh. We tried. Multiple times. It just won't work, like, ever again. I
wrote a longer response here:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/re-launching-the-java-sig/19688/3
So, you are welcome to try, but I bet you'll end up in the long line
of packagers who failed to make it work.

> > - transitioning from old java.net / JavaEE projects to the new ones
> > now under the eclipse-ee4j umbrella
> >
> > I know that - among others - the PKI team, Neuro SIG, and Eclipse
> > maintainers depend on parts of the java stack for their packages, so I
> > hope that we can work together with them on these things, as well.
> >
> > So, if you're interested, please consider joining this group effort.
> > I'll get new members set up with the FAS group / pagure project / mailing list.
>
> Yep, count me in.

Thanks. I'll get your memberships set up. :)

Fabio

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