On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:29:19 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:46 AM Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > But then everybody felt strong that it is not possible, because if there > > was not official body approving this, that could be end of the world. So > > now, when we have that body, it gives blank approvals, because the > > members of the body cannot get themselves educated about the > > problematic? Can somebody explain me what is the reason for the process > > then? > > > The process catches subtle errors all the time that could cause > problems for users or other stakeholders, it helps keep Fedora stable > and on course. > > And in particular with this specific change, is already well tested > elsewhere, NetworkManager folks were in favor, and it was discussed by > the Workstation working group prior to becoming a change proposal.. > And in the original FESCo vote it passed with a majority of the votes. > > > > > My proposal is that FESCo should put their stuff together and provide > > reasonable ruling or it should completely dissolve, because it proves > > itself useless. There are no reasons for the committee to gather > > together just to provide rubber stamps to changes. > > > Plurality decisions are frequent in most committees. In no possible > way was the process unreasonable. > > And review your metaphors please: to use a rubber stamp means that > something is approved without assessment. That is self evidently not > the case. This is not resolved's first day at the rodeo. To change abstaining to be the same as removing oneself from the pool of eligible voters would have the same effect as providing rubber stamps to changes. If folks are uncertain about a given change, it's certainly very valid to abstain, and if many people are abstaining, the issue is with the proposal, not the voters. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
