On Thu, 14 May 2020 06:59:47 -0500, you wrote: >What i'm saying is: Distros like Fedora actively hurt the very people >who are directly or indirectly helping them. There are single-person run >projects, like mine, out there that can't possibly do all the work >needed to have a dozen packages for each distro. It's just not possible >or, in the case of Java based projects, not even needed to begin with. 1) nobody is forcing upstream developers to package their projects - that's what the packagers in the various distrobutions do. 2) the fact that people want to package the Java packages, and that other people want to install those packages, indicates that there is a need. >That is to say nothing of those distros doing things like Fedora now >does like running X as user which break otherwise perfectly running >applications. Running X as a user would be a change done to decrease the security risk of running applications using X, or X itself. It is the type of change that anyone should expect a distribution to make, and the type of change even Apple and Microsoft make (anyone who used Windows in the past will recall the applications that insisted on being run as an Administrator for no valid reason, and eventually Microsoft learned the hard way and cracked down - I am sure just like you seem to be a lot of Windows developers made the same false claim that MS was breaking otherwise perfectly running applications. >I can't check in every 6 months to make sure y'all didn't >break something. Then perhaps you need to look for a different hobby/career? The software development field is full of constant change that developers need to be aware of regardless of OS or environment. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx