Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

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On 5/13/20 12:04 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote:
Ty Young <youngty1997@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

On 5/12/20 5:55 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young:

Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I
suppose I should have been more clear there. Sorry for any
confusion, it was aimed at the Fedora project as a whole as this is
a Fedora issue.
This is not a Fedora issue but a consequence of Fedora's core
values. You not agree with it but "building from source" is so
fundamental that it does not make sense to even start a discussion
about it on fedora-devel.

I suggest you read up on the rationale behind that policy (which is
why I linked the policy document in the first place).

I understand that missing components/features due to the source
requirement are annoying but Fedora (and other distros) decided to
take the "high road" here and actually fix stuff instead of shipping
whatever upstream came up with.
As someone who has been burned due to Fedora's goody little two shoes
policies, I'd kindly ask that Fedora take a hike and not package the
software at all.
This is not "being excellent to each other".  Let's keep in mind that we
are all here for the same reason (caring about Fedora), and that this
makes us colleagues - even when we disagree.


Neither was the threat and intimidation by higher ups at Red Hat or Fedora, which very few people on this seem to care about despite constantly bringing up the CoC. Selective enforcement probably isn't "being excellent to each other" either.


Anyway, I'm just asking that Fedora not repeat what Debian did. While I find it to be a bit paranoid, I understand the concerns regarding someone sneaking in malware into pre-build binaries. I'm just asking Fedora not package the software at all in that case, or any software that depends on that software if possible. People who want to support Linux by writing software shouldn't be bothered with bug reports from issues they never created to begin with.



Thanks,
--Robbie
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