On Wed, May 13, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Ty Young wrote: > > On 5/13/20 12:04 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Ty Young <youngty1997@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > >> On 5/12/20 5:55 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote: > >>> Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young: > >>> > >>>> Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I > >>>> suppose I should have been more clear there. Sorry for any > >>>> confusion, it was aimed at the Fedora project as a whole as this is > >>>> a Fedora issue. > >>> This is not a Fedora issue but a consequence of Fedora's core > >>> values. You not agree with it but "building from source" is so > >>> fundamental that it does not make sense to even start a discussion > >>> about it on fedora-devel. > >>> > >>> I suggest you read up on the rationale behind that policy (which is > >>> why I linked the policy document in the first place). > >>> > >>> I understand that missing components/features due to the source > >>> requirement are annoying but Fedora (and other distros) decided to > >>> take the "high road" here and actually fix stuff instead of shipping > >>> whatever upstream came up with. > >> As someone who has been burned due to Fedora's goody little two shoes > >> policies, I'd kindly ask that Fedora take a hike and not package the > >> software at all. > > This is not "being excellent to each other". Let's keep in mind that we > > are all here for the same reason (caring about Fedora), and that this > > makes us colleagues - even when we disagree. > > > Neither was the threat and intimidation by higher ups at Red Hat or > Fedora, which very few people on this seem to care about despite > constantly bringing up the CoC. Selective enforcement probably isn't > "being excellent to each other" either. > > > Anyway, I'm just asking that Fedora not repeat what Debian did. While I > find it to be a bit paranoid, I understand the concerns regarding > someone sneaking in malware into pre-build binaries. I'm just asking > Fedora not package the software at all in that case, or any software > that depends on that software if possible. People who want to support > Linux by writing software shouldn't be bothered with bug reports from > issues they never created to begin with. > Is your position that Fedora should not package any software where the Upstream provides binaries? If so, that would seem to defeat the purpose of a Linux distribution, IMHO. V/r, James Cassell _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
