Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:53:48PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Lennart Poettering:
> 
> > On Mi, 15.04.20 16:30, Lennart Poettering (mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> >
> >> On Mi, 15.04.20 15:50, Florian Weimer (fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> >>
> >> > * Lennart Poettering:
> >> >
> >> > > 1. If /etc/resolv.conf is a regular file, resolved will *consume* it
> >> > >    for DNS configuration, and never change it or modify it or replace
> >> > >    it. If this mode is selected arbitrary other programs that do DNS
> >> > >    will talk directly to the provided DNS servers, and resolved is out
> >> > >    of the loop.
> >> >
> >> > > In mode #1 resolved neither manages /etc/resolv.conf nor inserts
> >> > > itself into DNS resolution in any way.
> >> >
> >> > What will nss_resolve do in this case?  Nothing?
> >>
> >> The nss_resolve module is just a wrapper around resolved's bus
> >> API. And the bus API uses resolved's own DNS resolution code. And
> >> resolved is smart enough to automatically become a *consumer* of
> >> /etc/nsswitch.conf (instead of a *manager* of it) if it is a regular
> >> file instead of a symlink to resolved's own files in /run.
> >
> > Meh. I mean /etc/resolv.conf here, of course, not /etc/nsswitch.conf.
> 
> So if /etc/resolv.conf comes from somewhere else, then nss_resolve will
> still forward queries to the daemon, which contacts the upstream server
> on nss_resolve's behave (possibly with some caching), and eventually
> return the data to the application?

nss-resolve is enabled/disabled through nsswitch.conf. It always talks to
systemd-resolved using local IPC. It doesn't care about /etc/resolv.conf
in any way.

What Lennart wrote above applies to systemd-resolved and to things
which look at /etc/resolv.conf for some reason. If nss-resolve is enabled,
then only things which do not use nss at all would fall into this category.

> Or does nss_resolve fail with UNAVAIL and expects nss_dns to fetch the
> data?

nss_resolve fails with UNAVAIL when systemd-resolved is not running.
So yeah, we use want to use nss_dns as a fallback for that case. I'm not
sure if that is what you are asking about.

> I'd prefer the first approach, but it really means that resolved is out
> of the loop only for queries submitted over the DNS transport (so
> res_query and the like, or direct use of UDP & TCP).  Hence my
> confusion. 8-)

Zbyszek
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