Dne 02. 04. 20 v 19:26 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:34:08AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> Yeah -- and this bigger picture is still the Fedora Project's overall >>> goal. The change is in the mission of CPE vs. the previous Fedora >>> Engineering team structure, not in what we want to do as a project. >> If there's a gap there, though, have we systematically considered how >> it should be filled? Including whether RH still wants to contribute to >> filling it, outside of the CPE team's remit? > Red Hat does. We're working with OSPO (formerly OSAS) to help bring in Red > Hat contributions from the CTO's office. > > Peeling back the corporate structure: the CPE team reports into the Linux > platform engineering organization at Red Hat, the same one that makes RHEL. > So it's natural for the goals of that group to be squeezed towards the > practical matters of OS pipelines and engineering bits. The Office of the > CTO, however, has a much wider remit, and a lot of this "actual functioning > health of our community so that we have a reason to produce those bits" > stuff does fit there. So Marie and I are actively working with OSPO to > formalize this. > > Marie is also working on reforming the web, design, and marketing teams and > building those up so we don't have to be directly dependent on Red Hat in > those areas (where, let's face it, Red Hat has historically under-invested). > I see one more trend nobody is really talking about. Once there appears somebody brilliant in community, sooner or later Red Hat hires him. Unfortunately, this rarely means that the person keeps their independence. This also means that later we are missing the "pure" community. May be Fedora should sponsor some volunteers to do some work, without Red Hat hiring them. Also, for project such as Pagure, I don't think we benefit enough from programs such as GSoC. I'm not saying that we don't do this and of course such participants needs mentors etc ... Vít _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx