----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Scheel" <ascheel@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Leigh Griffin" <lgriffin@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:42:33 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bruno Wolff III" <bruno@xxxxxxxx> > > To: "Leigh Griffin" <lgriffin@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:08:21 PM > > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 17:20:04 +0100, > > Leigh Griffin <lgriffin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:06 PM David Kaufmann <astra@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >We are trying to reduce the total ownership of the team to allow us to > > >provide value on initiatives that are requested of us by our stakeholders. > > > > Pagure has value beyond Fedora and RedHat. In some ways it has more value > > than Fedora the OS, because there are less free options in the git forge > > space. (Gitlab isn't usably free as is. It would need a real fork to > > get out from under the sponsor's conflicts of interest.) > > Have you tried to use Pagure as a development based git forge? And not > just as a dist-git hosting location? It needs a lot of help! More than the > current resources provide. > > The reasons why are well documented in Pagure's issue tracker. > > If that's something you value, feel free to contribute to Pagure upstream. > But Pagure can't compete with Gitlab as a development forge in its current > state. > > There are other public git forges that behave better than Pagure: > > - SourceHut > - Gitea > - ... > > So I don't think this actually has as much value as you think. > > > And to be clear: there's a difference between a Fedora-sponsored > Development forge and a new git forge for dist-git. A lot of this > discussion has conflated these two cases. I mostly care about it > releasing the former role (pagure.io) and don't care much about > the latter role (s.fp.o). I personally see this pretty much the other way - there are many good or usable forges for hosting ones project. There is at the moment pretty much only one git forge with good (and any at all any) integration with Fedora processes - Pagure. That's why I see Pagure as important mostly in the Fedora family context and less important in the general git forge are. It would certainly be nice to see Pagure take over that as well, but I see having a fully open git forge with full Fedora integration sitting on top of distgit as more important. > > > My 2c. > > - Alex > > > > > I would have expected the council to consider this an important project > > worth pursuing on its own, not just for running part of Fedora's > > infrastructure. > > _______________________________________________ > > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
