Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose

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On 25. 03. 20 16:47, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
I think we managed to miss a few key points in the Change Proposal
which is directly resulting in a bit of the confusion here.

Reading the rest of you e-mail I must agree that this is what happened. Would you mind putting the change back to incomplete state and resend it once more for feedback once this is addressed?

The first and most important of these is that ELN will*not*  be
building the complete Fedora package set. We're going to be building a
selected subset of packages (derived from packages in RHEL 8 and
EPEL). Our current expectation is that we are going to be looking at
fewer than 2500 source packages. We are still working up the initial
list of these and we will update the Change Proposal with it (as well
as providing a fedora-devel post breaking down the known owners).

Glad to hear that.

Second, from this reduced subset, we expect that the overwhelming
majority of the maintainers are Red Hat employees that already work on
RHEL. With this in mind, we think that the level of concern about how
this will affect non-Red Hat contributors is premature. We will reach
out directly to those non-Red Hat contributors we identify.

As a Red employee if I need to diverge a RHEL package from Fedora, I prefer to use branches as well. And I know for a fact I am not alone in this. Please don't forget to identify and reach out to Red Hat contributors as well, not just the non-Red Hat contributors.

Finally, of the set of packages that we're going to be including, we
anticipate around 200-300 of them will have distro conditionals that
need investigation (with fewer needing actual modification). The ELN
SIG will be doing this initial investigation and will provide guidance
(and/or PRs) to affected packagers.

My concerns still remain, although I am now not so scared that this will alienate the community. Now the concern is more personal (= previously I was worried that everybody will be encouraged to use the conditionals, while now I'm mostly concerned they I will be encouraged to use the conditionals).

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