On 23/03/2020 15:35, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Monday, 23 March 2020 at 12:10, Daniel Pocock wrote: > [...] >> The bottom line is that these tools need to support our workflows, not >> try to shoehorn us into a particular way of working. > > Just writing an e-mail about the issue to the Fedora devel list will not > change anything, maybe apart from annoying a few people. Obviously the > notifications are useful for someone or they would not have been > implemented. That they're not useful to you doesn't automatically mean > they should be done away with. If you don't like the current status, > open an issue, submit a PR or just configure them to suit your workflow. If the issue was clear I would do just that. In fact, for Debian's BTS I added this, so it can produce iCalendar feeds that I can merge with the feed from Fedora Bugzilla: https://salsa.debian.org/qa/udd/-/commit/dc66e2f5fa116a04c0abf813af9d7690593af15c But the issue in Fedora will not be not fixed by a single PR. I understand everybody works in a different way and I don't expect other people to work the same way as me. I'm actually quite happy to read the views that different people have about this before making any stronger suggestions or pull requests. > And I do sympathize as I didn't like them, either. That's why I spent > maybe 15 minutes deleting all default notifications and adding only > those I wanted, e.g. new version notifications, bodhi update status > changes and koschei build status changes. The link to the configuration > interface is in each notification e-mail. To borrow from a phrase that is in widespread use today, I feel the world is experiencing a pandemic of notifications. As with Coronavirus, it is really important to think at scale. Every company insists their notifications are important, but when you add them all together it is like white noise. Multiply: 15 minutes * every developer on the fringe of the project * every other project we interact with * every other business we interact with who decides to send notifications While 15 minutes may be acceptable in some cases, it doesn't scale. If any project wants to attract and keep a more diverse body of contributors, I feel it is important to be aware of this. In other words, in a world gone mad with notifications, sending less than anybody else is a feature. Regards, Daniel _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
