On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 05:52:10PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Thanks for doing that > > Here are some observations: > > - the original email was sent to my pocock.com.au address and so my mail > client replied to all mails using that address, I didn't notice until > now. That address is not subscribed. > > - my other address, pocock.pro, is subscribed > > - the list didn't give me any bounces or alerts that messages were held. > At least some lists give warnings when a mail is sent from an address > that is not subscribed Odd. I see the list replying back with a bounce: Mar 3 09:10:32 mailman01.phx2.fedoraproject.org postfix/smtp[5786]: 5C39C5D35D048: to=<daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, relay=bast ion.phx2.fedoraproject.org[10.5.126.12]:25, delay=0.15, delays=0.01/0/0.03/0.11, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: qu eued as 655CF601EA0C) Mar 3 09:10:32 mailman01.phx2.fedoraproject.org postfix/qmgr[7288]: 5C39C5D35D048: removed Mar 3 09:10:34 bastion01.phx2.fedoraproject.org postfix/smtp[13250]: 655CF601EA0C: to=<daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, relay=mail .trendhosting.net[195.8.117.5]:25, delay=2.4, delays=0.1/0/1.3/0.95, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 0E2A 0150D5) > > - the last message sent from the pocock.pro address was on 19 August, it > was delivered to the list but only with a delay of 9 minutes > > - the message prior to that was delayed by 20 hours inside Fedora: > > Received: from mailman01.phx2.fedoraproject.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) > by mailman01.phx2.fedoraproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE3858968E1E; > Fri, 2 Aug 2019 14:43:36 +0000 (UTC) > Received: by mailman01.phx2.fedoraproject.org (Postfix, from userid 991) > id DCFA658968E12; Thu, 1 Aug 2019 18:25:21 +0000 (UTC) From my notes, that was a time when gmail was blocking several folks who were asking for 'all fedmsgs as emails please'. ie, I see in irc at the time I said: Aug 02 08:50:38 <nirik> cool... 183,000 emails in bastion01's mail queue. wheeee. So, it took a while for them to process, your email wasn't blocked by any moderator. > Combined with the blog censorship and other things going on in various > places, this type of observation is not very motivating but I do > understand things sometimes go wrong for technical reasons. Do note that censorship means a gov entity blocking your right to free speach. The Fedora Project is not a government. We reserve the right to tell people they shouldn't use our platform for their speach. In particular when it's not related to our mission. That said, if you have questions about that, feel free to file a council ticket/mail the council for clarification. kevin
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