Andrew Haley <aph@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On 1/26/20 11:52 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> Le dimanche 26 janvier 2020 à 10:10 +0000, Andrew Haley a écrit : >>> On 1/26/20 8:43 AM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: >>> >>>> Java has been in a terminal course in Fedora for a year at >>>> least. You can see how much Red Hat Java leadership cares about the >>>> situation by consulting next week’s Java dev room schedule. Red Hat >>>> is co- organisator of this dev room >>>> https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/track/free_java/ >>> >>> Okay, I'll bite. I am part of the Red Hat Java leadership. >>> >>> I'm pleased with this year's FOSDEM schedule. People have submitted >>> a lot of interesting-looking talks, and I expect it'll be a good >>> day. I take it that you don't approve of this list, but I don't know >>> what it is you don't like about it. >> >> I was just pointing out that devroom schedules reflect the interests >> and priorities of the people organizing the devroom. And that those >> interests and priorities do not include Java getting in such a state >> that all the Fedora maintainers quit, major apps no loner work, and >> users are migrating elsewhere. > > You would not expect a GCC devroom to be concerned about the problems > of all packages written in C and C++, so why would Java be any > different? Honestly? I totally would expect that. Wouldn't that be better for everyone? Compilers aren't special here: every package that wishes to continue to have users *needs* to care about those users. Maintenance and features need to be tailored to actual use cases. Otherwise, it's a waste of time, and just further irritates said users. Thanks, --Robbie
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