On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 03:59, Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 1/17/20 3:03 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 01:16, Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx> said: > >>> Is there any software or service that currently uses Berkeley DB that > >>> cannot reasonably be discarded and rebuilt from scratch for new > >>> versions of that software, without Berkeley DB entirely, as part of a > >>> Fedora release? > >> > > > >> BDB is kind of a part of the collective history of Unix systems and > >> assumed to always be available. Is there nobody interested in > >> maintaining the final license-compatible version in a pure bugfix mode? > >> Does it get that many bugs? > > > > It does get some and most of them are gnarly ones where if you fix > > that bug you have now introduced a whole new class of bugs for some > > other set of users. There are 30 years of software which expect BDB to > > work like it was when the program was originally written. You need to > > be an archaeologist of knowing how BDB acted in 1994 to 2019 with all > > the little tweaks and changes which have happened during that. You > > also have to 'add' new features because someone is going to write some > > new language or coding paradigm which needs changes. > > > > I would expect keeping this up would require a full time company of > > programmers and equipment to build all the test cases that would be > > needed to try and support this. > > > > Yup. I guess many projects relying on BDB have been in a denial over > this. 6.5 years of waiting for "surely somebody will pick up the pieces" > hasn't changed the situation a whole lot: everybody needs it but nobody > wants it. > It also goes with the other item.. If it isn't broke (for me).. why fix it (for others). Most people really aren't going to care about the licenses and they probably aren't going to end up in the corner cases which need fixing by whoever takes up the code... until some sort of security review finds that they do.. -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
