Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

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On 1/6/20 2:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:57:16PM -0500, Peter Jones wrote:
In
general, you're not considering that it may be worth having policies
reflect our *ideal* situation, and acknowledge that they don't always
fit the real world precisely.
That last thing seems _very_ "Fedora" to me. Be human-driven rather than
rules-driven.


At the risk of chiming in late: good policies are very much human-driven.

For sure, if Fedora were to write policies and set them in stone, never updating them and demanding strict adherence, then those would be bad policies, and they'd be a hinderance.

But if Fedora writes policies that record real workflows, and updates them with exceptions and changes as maintainers find that they are needed, then those policies ensure business continuity. That's good for everyone.  Both the organization and users are assured that the departure of any person will not cause chaos as the result of lost knowledge.  It's good for maintainers, too, because they know they can take time off and they won't come back to find that something is wrong because the policy said one thing, but there was an exception that everyone missed because it wasn't written down.

And the best way to ensure that policies reflect reality is to actually follow them, so that the exceptions are found and recorded.

I guess I just wanted to say thanks to the maintainers who are following the policies and working to make sure they do fit the real world.

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