On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:57:16PM -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > > Regardless of different opinions about aggressiveness, having policies > > and no enforcement makes no sense. Either the polices are too > > aggressive and we need to change them, or they are not and we need to > > enforce them. > That seems like a rather poor way to think about policy in general, and > I have some disagreements with it in this specific case as well. In > general, you're not considering that it may be worth having policies > reflect our *ideal* situation, and acknowledge that they don't always > fit the real world precisely. That last thing seems _very_ "Fedora" to me. Be human-driven rather than rules-driven. But I also do understand the desire for clarity and enforcement. Keeping quality high by sticking to the rules is also very much in the Fedora Project nature. Especially because we have a lot of people from different cultures, backgrounds, languages, and ways of thinking, a universal balance is impossible and just expecting people to understand one seems like a recipe for this kind of conflict. So, I think perhaps explicitly changing the policy to be a little more humane _is_ the best course. I got a complaint about a notice sent on Christmas -- I know not everyone celebrates that (and for some of us, hey, time off to do Fedora stuff!), but I think it wouldn't hurt to have some wording requesting people enforcing the policy to remember the humans on the other end. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx