On Do, 05.12.19 16:33, John M. Harris Jr (johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > Locking down the OS itself and locking down the user's home are two > > different things, because OS integrity should be bound to different > > mechanisms than user data encryption. (i.e. OS integrity should be > > bound to vendor trust or TPM, while user data should be bound to > > user's security credentials). > > I could not disagree more. That would be fine if the trust were the user or > the organization that owns the machine, but not vendor trust or anything of > the like. It's not some third party's system, it's the user or organization's. > Additionally, it's much easier to get a third party to sign something for you > than to get the users themselves, or an organization, to sign it. Humm, so you turn off gpg verification of RPMs you install? Nah, you don't, because you put trust in Fedora that the RPMs they build are somewhat safe to use. That's what vendor trust means. Since regular users (and even very technical ones) cannot personally validate the trustworthiness of compiled code we outsource that to distributions, and trust the vendor's benevolence and understanding of things. And that's the correct way to build integrity for OS resources. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx